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Valentine One. Fantastic and upgradeable.

I get your point. But with screens, it is almost impossible to not have this happen. And it is also the angle of the screen.

Long term? And most have different turbos and more than just MINOR modifications. Fixed.

If the Z does not have a forged crank or internals, I would not trust these motors making big power. It is a ticking time bomb. The one plus for my Supra, is that the B58 was fully forged. I guess time will tell.

Again, the Z is a GT. The Supra is a focused sports car. Had both. My Z is much more comfortable, more interior leg and arm room. Supra handles better. Smaller car. Straight line performance is equal. Better driver wins.

I will keep my Z. No thanks.

LOL

Very beautiful.

GR Corolla is a great car. But the steering feel and steering is not comparable to my 13 FRS. 13 FRS has top 10 steering in ANY price or class of car. Look it up or drive one.

Cannot beat a rear-wheel-drive sports car. My 13 FRS is still a magical car. Handling is superb.

DO NOT get anything but the Ohlins. They will last. The other brands will not.

Automatic Z is around 4.0 to 60. The TIRES are the limiting factor for the Z. Again, my automatic Z is every bit as fast as the automatic Supra in a straight line. Had\have both!

The NISMO was/is just too expensive for what you get in addition to the performance model. Z should have ranged from 40-50k.

Had a Supra. It is not worth anywhere near 60+K.

I almost bought a GR Corolla. Could have got it at invoice because I worked for Toyota. But the looks just did not do it for me personally. But the Z is a good looking and performing car. Is it worth 55-56K for the performance? Maybe, maybe not. But for what they are going for now, they are the...

I bought a new old stock 2025. But I had dealers calling me giving 5-6k on new 2026 models. And I suspect I could have got more if I had tried. I stole my new 2025 performance. Love it!

GR Corolla is a hot hatch. Fine car, but not in the same league as the Z. People need to accept the fact that the Z is NOT hardcore sports car, but a Grand Touring car. Much better than my Supra for trips and long drives. And no comparison in terms of power than the old Z. Power is linear and...

Same guy says Toyota is junk. They make some of the most reliable cars on the planet. Z is a GT car. GR Corolla is a hot hatch.

2 different classes of cars.