Random Car News Thread

[LeatherWings]

This thing looks...terrible - https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-i...tesla-cybertruck-has-a-separate-gauge-cluster

I love it.

 

[takemorepills]

This thing looks...terrible - https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-i...tesla-cybertruck-has-a-separate-gauge-cluster

I agree, looks like a child's sketch.
However, if some people like it because it basically looks like a flying middle finger to "norms" then I can appreciate that. I have friends who will try to buy because it looks so dumb (one of whom has owned a few H1 Hummers)
There's just no concern for design on this thing.

Then again, it just seems like another manifestation of Musk trolling everything... and I kinda like that too!

 

[LeatherWings]

However, if some people like it because it basically looks like a flying middle finger to "norms" then I can appreciate that.

My affinity for the Cybertruck is part middle-finger-to-norms and big part 'I have waited my whole life to drive a post-apocalyptic/dystopian future sci-fi mobile.' The 2nd part is arguably related to the 1st, but even if I were a lone colonist on Mars or the last man on zombie-infested Earth, I'd still want to drive a Cybertruck over a Ford F-150 or any other traditionally-shaped truck.

Now, I don't dislike 'normie' trucks or anything, but I just find the Tesla alternative to be far more appealing to my unabashed nerdom.

There's just no concern for design on this thing.

I disagree. The Cybertruck is neo-brutalist futurism, through and through. Form follows function as the sharp, unwelcoming corners and lack of curves are a result of a utilitarian process for creating the vehicle and its heavy duty stainless steel panels. Its resulting form is certainly a polarizing departure from the old - "a flying middle finger to 'norms'", as you say. The image of it being 'anti-design' IS the design.

RE: Interior - Now of course, I think some compromises and regulation changes had to be made from the original prototype version that had an interior that matched the hard edges of the exterior, but I think the revised pre-production interior still follows the aesthetic.

Ultimately, I get why many people think the Cybertruck is the ugliest thing they've ever seen. I'm not trying to convince anybody they should like it, much less love it. I'm just saying that I do, lol.

 

[indio22]

My affinity for the Cybertruck is part middle-finger-to-norms and big part 'I have waited my whole life to drive a post-apocalyptic/dystopian future sci-fi mobile.' The 2nd part is arguably related to the 1st, but even if I were a lone colonist on Mars or the last man on zombie-infested Earth, I'd still want to drive a Cybertruck over a Ford F-150 or any other traditionally-shaped truck.

Now, I don't dislike 'normie' trucks or anything, but I just find the Tesla alternative to be far more appealing to my nerdom.

I disagree. The Cybertruck is neo-brutalist futurism, through and through. Form follows function as the sharp, unwelcoming corners and lack of curves are a result of a utilitarian process for creating the vehicle and its heavy duty stainless steel panels. Its resulting form is certainly a polarizing departure from the old - "a flying middle finger to 'norms'", as you say. The image of it being 'anti-design' IS the design.

Now of course, I think some compromises and regulation changes had to be made from the original prototype version that had an interior that matched the hard edges of the exterior, but I think the revised pre-production interior still follows the aesthetic.

Ultimately, I get why many people think the Cybertruck is the ugliest thing they've ever seen. I'm not trying to convince anybody they should like it, much less love it. I'm just saying that I do, lol.

I'm down with the body and appearance of the Cybertruck. Like having options and variety. Even though I wonder about the body shape in terms of utility usage such as hauling things, tying lumber to the top, stuff like that.

But the tablet tacked to the dash, I don't care for that in any vehicles. I'm not sure why it ever became a thing.

 

[LeatherWings]

I'm down with the body and appearance of the Cybertruck. Like having options and variety. Even though I wonder about the body shape in terms of utility usage such as hauling things, tying lumber to the top, stuff like that.

A solid point of concern. It remains to be seen how the Cybertruck will deal with these types of things that we are very familiar with how legacy truck designs do, but I would imagine there are solutions.

Here's a snapshot from the original unveil that gives an idea of the different ways of addressing such issues:

And some random renderings:

I will say, the adaptable suspension is a very appealing feature. Coupled with the built-in tailgate ramp, it would be a very convenient way for me to haul my motorcycle to the track or anywhere else.

But the tablet tacked to the dash, I don't care for that in any vehicles. I'm not sure why it ever became a thing.

I agree. From an aesthetic and design standpoint, it's quite an eyesore. However, it really does seem to be the most practical way of 'integrating' such a device into an automobile.

In terms of looks, I do really like the way the screen is built into the center console on the Z, but having it stick out of the top of the dash does seem like it's better for visibility and ease of use.

 

[takemorepills]

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cur...-plymouth-cuda-convertible-fancy-some-bubbly/

 

[Donalex]

In terms of looks, I do really like the way the screen is built into the center console on the Z, but having it stick out of the top of the dash does seem like it's better for visibility and ease of use.

My opinion is that a video display above the dash would be detrimental to line of sight and night vision which could be catastrophic to other cars and especially pedestrians.

 

[LeatherWings]

My opinion is that a video display above the dash would be detrimental to line of sight and night vision which could be catastrophic to other cars and especially pedestrians.

Maybe it was in the Supra thread, but a few others have pointed out that the screen does not interfere whatsoever with road visibility. My guess is that this is the case for practically all cars with this layout. As far as night vision, I would assume that many screens (if not all) have auto dimming or a 'dark mode' for night use.

 

[indio22]

A solid point of concern. It remains to be seen how the Cybertruck will deal with these types of things that we are very familiar with how legacy truck designs do, but I would imagine there are solutions.

Here's a snapshot from the original unveil that gives an idea of the different ways of addressing such issues:

And some random renderings:

I will say, the adaptable suspension is a very appealing feature. Coupled with the built-in tailgate ramp, it would be a very convenient way for me to haul my motorcycle to the track or anywhere else.

I agree. From an aesthetic and design standpoint, it's quite an eyesore. However, it really does seem to be the most practical way of 'integrating' such a device into an automobile.

In terms of looks, I do really like the way the screen is built into the center console on the Z, but having it stick out of the top of the dash does seem like it's better for visibility and ease of use.

That built-in tailgate ramp could be useful. Especially after watching all the YouTube fail videos of people trying to load ATVs/cycles into their pickup trucks, lol.

At minimum I'd want a way to fasten a bar carrier across the mid portion (above driver), and out back a second elevated U shaped bar (as shown in one of the photos), to allow for carrying my canoe or kayaks. And for securing lumber.

Should be an interesting vehicle.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

^ It's been designed by someone who watched too much Logan's Run as a kid.

All those angles on the bodywork are unlikely to pass modern Health & Safety requirements in most places.

 

[LeatherWings]

All those angles on the bodywork are unlikely to pass modern Health & Safety requirements in most places.

That's certainly true of the original prototype from 2019, but there is an updated pre-prod model that appears to have softened some of those angles to be more regulation-friendly (and pedestrian-friendly).

Top image: original 2019 prototype. Bottom image: 2022 updated pre-production truck

 

[takemorepills]

That's certainly true of the original prototype from 2019, but there is an updated pre-prod model that appears to have softened some of those angles to be more regulation-friendly (and pedestrian-friendly).

Top image: original 2019 prototype. Bottom image: 2022 updated pre-production truck

As a pedestrian, no thanks to being hit by either one.

 

[therumblewagon]

https://www.motor1.com/news/590913/toyota-hints-at-sporty-gr-camry-sedan-and-production-gr-gt3/

 

[West Aussie]

I’m sorry, I thought this was some kinda joke, a meme, a cartoon….I did not think anything so horrendously ugly would make it to market.?

 

[LeatherWings]

I’m sorry, I thought this was some kinda joke, a meme, a cartoon….I did not think anything so horrendously ugly would make it to market.?

Well I got news for you, sister...