Hands Up all the Aussies

[West Aussie]

but just as a side note,

Nissan Z is the 3rd highest selling sports car in AU for dec 2022

https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts-december-2022-australian-new-car-sales/

But we are all buying air at this point

 

[Mud]

Wait…are you saying they asked for a. 500 deposit before they would let you test drive it?
So what’s the point of a demo? They are supposed to be for people to test and decide if they want a car, not to force them into a contract before testing.

This is why demos should have gone to buyers not dealers, I know we all have differing opinions on this.
But again what the use of more orders when you have a year ( possibly three if the 500 rumours are correct) backlog
At this point we will be able to buy a demo before the cars actually arrive

Deposit to drive, i asumed fully refunded upon return of the car in same condition it left.

I dont belive i mentioned signing a contract of any kind.

I thought a deposit would be fair enough considering all the wanna be Z owners that would just go in for a fang with no intention of buying.

 

[jezzza]

It went very well and gearbox felt amazing. Was smart taking your daughter along @Mud as my drive was ‘supervised’.

It just occurred to me that these demo vehicles may be up for sale before our allocations arrive.

 

[cainen]

This was on facebook, speaking of manual transmissions.

 

[Mud]

Two new things that stood out that I disliked. But are quirks ill juts have to get used to.

1. The top of the gear knob is piano black and feels weird underhand compared to all leather 370z knob

2. The piano blacks on the steering wheel extends out a lot further and your palms sit on it when hands are at 9 and 3 (best position to use steering wheel controls and paddles) feels weird. Where on the 370z the same position is all leather.

Just some observations

 

[West Aussie]

Not a fan of piano black full stop…finger prints ?
As to @jezzza comment. Highly likely the 9 month ban on selling demos will be up before people get their coupes. But by then with so few around they will be true second hand cars and I can’t see them reducing the price…if anything because of demand we could see them above RRP

 

[jezzza]

This was on facebook, speaking of manual transmissions..

We all new this existed but reading through it personally is quite unsettling.

What I find even more unsettling is that (most) Australian dealerships still claim to know nothing about it! Surely gearboxes built for our market were no different.

With the demo I've just driven having a build date of July and compliance completed 5 months later, guess it's safe to assume the box was replaced prior delivery.

 

[West Aussie]

We all new this existed but reading through it personally is quite unsettling.

What I find even more unsettling is that (most) Australian dealerships still claim to know nothing about it! Surely gearboxes built for our market were no different.

With the demo I've just driven having a build date of July and compliance completed 5 months later, guess it's safe to assume the box was replaced prior delivery.

agree…and by refusing to admit there was ever an issue makes me worry if they would admit to future problems

This could of all been easily resolved by Nissan Aus contacting clientele with a short email outlining that unfortunately in the rush to get the cars in our hands a fault was not detected in the manual transmission before shipping.
And that rather than sending sub par products that had the potential to cause serious issues for new car owners, they have decided to delay delivery by six months whilst they rectify and rebuild said transmission problems

Then instead of creating a atmosphere of distrust, they would have created trust from their buyers and even though it would be disappointing, at least we would have known there was a legitimate and acceptable reason for the delay and the outcome would be that we would have a better car with a much lower chance of having issues.

Honestly what is wrong with their marketing and customer liaison departments…blind Freddy can see which approach is better for trust in the brand and sales long term.
It’s absolutely not rocket science

 

[jezzza]

It’s absolutely not rocket science

I soul heartedly concur. I never had any qualms over delays, only the nonexistent communication.

 

[BurninateZ]

Then instead of creating a atmosphere of distrust, they would have created trust from their buyers and even though it would be disappointing, at least we would have known there was a legitimate and acceptable reason for the delay and the outcome would be that we would have a better car with a much lower chance of having issues.

I mean fair is fair, they seem to be fixing it without a fuss. I just don't think they have enough predictability in their production line to state the impact on delivery.

 

[West Aussie]

I mean fair is fair, they seem to be fixing it without a fuss. I just don't think they have enough predictability in their production line to state the impact on delivery.

disagree, they put a timeline on delivery which they failed to meet…and not by some small margin.
Other dealerships such as Subaru and Hyundai are keeping their customers up to date with every step of their new car orders….there is no reason Nissan could not do the same other than a bad business structure.
A time line isn’t the biggest issue, the lack of transparent communication is

 

[BurninateZ]

disagree, they put a timeline on delivery which they failed to meet…and not by some small margin.
Other dealerships such as Subaru and Hyundai are keeping their customers up to date with every step of their new car orders….there is no reason Nissan could not do the same other than a bad business structure.
A time line isn’t the biggest issue, the lack of transparent communication is

Yeah Nissans production is shite, but I mean they've done the right thing in addressing the gearbox issue. It actually makes me think they care about the quality of the vehicle they deliver, unlike say Subaru with the RTV sealant issue on the BRZ/GR86.

 

[West Aussie]

Yeah Nissans production is shite, but I mean they've done the right thing in addressing the gearbox issue. It actually makes me think they care about the quality of the vehicle they deliver, unlike say Subaru with the RTV sealant issue on the BRZ/GR86.

Agreed it was the right move to fix it…but that my point.
Why hide it.
They have our contact details, reach out own both the problem and the solution …you’ll earn a lot more respect

 

[Ballast Scorcher]

Had a short layover in Perth so called into visit my "dealership" Midland Nissan only to learn they have migrated from quite a large yard spread out over two blocks to now working out of Carco's carpark with a few shipping containers converted to office spaces and all of about 15 vehicles - including the auto proto they purchased from the east for 150k. Shit is a sad state of affairs at the minute.

No news for me, so I guess my car will be here in the next few weeks thus meeting schedule ?

They've got a grand total of 3 Zs ordered, an Everest White Performance as a demo, a private buyers yellow Performance and my own Proto.

As to when they arrive, fuck knows.

Tbh, im thinking the real question is will Midland City Nissan exist by the time the Z does arrive..

On the plus side, since I was already in the carpark(?) I walked over for a gander in Carco's massive shed and seen a couple nice rigs in there.

- 675LT McLaren $520k
- Ferrari 488 Spider $515k
& a bright orange MY22 Corvette Stingray for a paltry $310k

I'm sure there were a few more noteworthy rigs, but I had to show myself back out to the carpark before I did anything stupid ?

..Seeing the proto sitting there cooking under the sun in the damn carpark of another dealership certainly made me think my own dilemma of a lengthy wait is no big deal, but.. this is a transaction first and foremost so get your shit together Nissan!

 

[West Aussie]

On the plus side, since I was already in the carpark(?) I walked over for a gander in Carco's massive shed and seen a couple nice rigs in there.

- 675LT McLaren $520k
- Ferrari 488 Spider $515k
& a bright orange MY22 Corvette Stingray for a paltry $310k

Come on…at those prices you could have taken all three home ?

Only three orders hey….I’m willing to be they had many more before this joke of a roll out started, and your dealership is not the only one.
Nissan Osborne Park moved out of their digs around six months now…operating out of a much smaller, older crappier yard. Supposed to be relocating again into a new premise, but the location where they are supposed to be rebuilding has had 0 movement

Interesting times