Hands Up all the Aussies

[Mud]

no cars in 2023?
that $145k Proto is looking pretty good now

 

[loudsx]

no cars in 2023?
that $145k Proto is looking pretty good now

till it's recalled and crushed.....

Kidding
for them to be crushing, thre would ahve to be a issue with the shell itself, everything else is fixable.

and that would mean cars on the road would be an issue.

so I would be very very surprised if this is true

(excluding preproduction cars and yes they must be destroyed)

 

[cainen]

and that would mean cars on the road would be an issue.

That's right. And other markets still seem to be taking delivery of (some) Z's?

 

[jezzza]

That's right. And other markets still seem to be taking delivery of (some) Z's?

I'm not certain that they are.. When did we last see a photo of Zs on a car transporter or at the docks?

 

[therumblewagon]

I'm not certain that they are.. When did we last see a photo of Zs on a car transporter or at the docks?

Nissan USA showing ~30 across the entire country, I feel like that number has remained pretty consistent since arrivals "kicked off". A mix of Proto, Sport and Performance, but heavily 9AT. Really surprised to not see any Blues, too, especially given how hard they were showing off that color.

I also haven't heard from any of the countless dealerships I've contacted over the...years, and I feel like they'd be chomping at the bit to reach out to leads if they had them on their lots.

Thought for a moment it might be helpful to try and get Dan Passe back on the boards, but he hasn't been active since Oct 5 and I can't imagine he'd be able to comment publicly anyway.

If anything, know y'all aren't alone down there. This is a worldwide mess. Someone ground me if I'm being a bit dramatic, but I'm racking brain and can't think of a better example - might honestly go down as one of the worst launches in auto history? Keeping the new Bronco company at least, that's for sure.

 

[loudsx]

Nissan USA showing ~30 across the entire country, I feel like that number has remained pretty consistent since arrivals "kicked off". A mix of Proto, Sport and Performance, but heavily 9AT. Really surprised to not see any Blues, too, especially given how hard they were showing off that color.

I also haven't heard from any of the countless dealerships I've contacted over the...years, and I feel like they'd be chomping at the bit to reach out to leads if they had them on their lots.

Thought for a moment it might be helpful to try and get Dan Passe back on the boards, but he hasn't been active since Oct 5 and I can't imagine he'd be able to comment publicly anyway.

If anything, know y'all aren't alone down there. This is a worldwide mess. Someone ground me if I'm being a bit dramatic, but I'm racking brain and can't think of a better example - might honestly go down as one of the worst launches in auto history? Keeping the new Bronco company at least, that's for sure.

I would say Cybertruck is worse it's gone from announced in 2019 with deliveries 2021 to mid 2023 best case.

Z proto was announced 2020Z launced 2021 with deliveries 2022
and honestly there are "some" deliveries.

now they jsut need to work out what is happening and roll the F%^ker out


now the big one, lets say they did ahve to recall those that are delivered and repalce them, what happens to those folk that have modified theirs..

 

[dackoo]

I can't comment about whether the cars manufactured to date at the factory have been crushed. But what i can say is having worked for Jag back in the UK in 2000, it is true all development cars at that time are crushed. That is standard practice. If production cars were identified with faults, they were either recalled for rectification work, or during routine servicing the cars were rectified - again so long as it was not safety related.
If cars were being crushed that were part of the production run (due to safety issues identified), then the cars released would also be recalled.
Its highly unlikely that the cars already sold would not be recalled if there were an issue that impacted safety.

 

[Mud]

What's with all the Kiwis getting VINs, shipping info and delivery dates !

 

[jezzza]

What's with all the Kiwis getting VINs, shipping info and delivery dates !

That's a very good question. Some of these orders were placed this year!

It appears that Nissan NZ isn't prioritising the dealership demos.

 

[Ballast Scorcher]

Emails unanswered, a call was made.

Surprise, surprise, the old sales manager had left and a new one had taken his place and of course, no emails were sent out directing existing clients towards the new point of contact. This is the 3rd dude now for me, and I know I'm not alone in having multiple points of contact over the course of this preorder.

Man, this shit is just relentless. The sheer lack of professionalism is breathtaking.

Anyhow, I finally got that email from Nissan Au that was due to me back in early October.

New forecast is January.

When i queried the vehicles being crushed, of course he had no idea. Time will tell.

I will remain positive about the new date, but I'll be damned if I let this drag on forever more.

 

[Ballast Scorcher]

Dang, I recall last summer your dealer reaching out about a Proto, and idea of possible Aug delivery? Now delivery is pushed half year later to 2023.

At this rate, here in the USA it could be 2024, before a Z is available at non-inflated prices.

Yeah mate, we've all had a small handful of different dates offered and yeah, this might be my fourth timeframe (?). I'm unsure now.

Feel for you mate, as yeah, id say 2024 sounds like a reasonable guess, but shit, who'd of thought we'd be talking about '23 here at the end of '22 as a likely date for initial release.

Surely nissan execs are feeling pretty nervous about the public relations following this debacle..

 

[StrikeS30]

Yeah mate, we've all had a small handful of different dates offered and yeah, this might be my fourth timeframe (?). I'm unsure now.

Feel for you mate, as yeah, id say 2024 sounds like a reasonable guess, but shit, who'd of thought we'd be talking about '23 here at the end of '22 as a likely date for initial release.

Surely nissan execs are feeling pretty nervous about the public relations following this debacle..

Imagine buying brand new 2023 MY Z's built in 2022 some time in 2024. Shi*, they'll be 2025 model years by then. haha
Be auto-cancelling my 2023 order, and ordering a 2024 model year in the spring for ... here we go again, "summer delivery".. late summer.. oh maybe fall! ?

Sounds like a crazy logistics nightmare for Nissan. At some point they're going to have to ship out what they have, and set up for the 2024's. A lot of the cars that are just now hitting the lots in the USA have relatively early build dates and low VIN numbers.. (saw one hit new york, A performance in white. VIN was 310169 - Started at 310000 and it just landed) I'm wondering if they legit halted actual production, and they haven't actually built any new ones since the spring. And they're very, VERY slowly dripping out a few cars a week as they get components to finish what they built?

 

[loudsx]

Surely nissan execs are feeling pretty nervous about the public relations following this debacle..

why as 10 people on a random internet forum are unhappy?

there is nothing in the media or general published on this.

honestly thir PR department is doing a much better job than the logistics team!

 

[jezzza]

Meanwhile in Puerto Rico..

 

[rocksandblues]

saw someone in NZ just take delivery of a non proto on social media