2020 Toyota Supra makes world debut

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Supra's closed-deck B58 when coupled with a 6-speed I think will be quicker than the Z's VR30 manual, that's a strong motor and underrated as BMW always does. Reliability will be no match to the VR30 though as we all know about BMW mills. My N54 TT 5 series is poking along at 62k miles and has been mostly reliable, couple of injectors replaced that's all. But I won't trust it above 150k miles, such are BMWs in general.
I'm betting the same, redesigned B58 with a manual would be quicker than a VR30 with a manual. It would also be a riot to drive. Most people will probably dump them well before 100k anyway, leaving the later life issues to be somebody else's problem.

Reliability on my N54 started going downhill around 70k miles. At 150k miles the cost of parts/labor to fix what really needs to be addressed (not including things like brakes, tires or anything suspension related) pretty much exceeds the value of the car. Once I start adding in the cost of future upgrades such as suspension, LSD, and fueling I realize that I must be insane to continue down this path, but when you already have $XX,XXX amount into it where do you draw the line?
 

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So if that's true it probably won't be at dealers until late 2022 as a 2023 model.
 

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It would be funny if the manual is only offered on the 4 banger. ?
 

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