2020 Mid-Engine Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Starts at $59,995

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Thoughtful response!

Though, I think this math is kind of illogical - you are comparing the start of one cycle to the absolute end of the next cycle, effectively taking into account two entire generational runs. We should be looking at where the previous generation's price ended, not where it began, because in doing it your way you are removing years of market changes just to arrive at a particular figure (~30%), and spanning nearly 1.5 decades to do it.
Perfectly logical - the reality is the upgrade gained in the baseline performance and capability getting into a C7 from the C6 is the exact same whether you split it between a 2013 and a 2014 model or a 2005 and a 2019 model. Therefore, that capability upgrade cost a buyer between 2% and 28% more money for the same upgrade. The guy with a 2013 going to a 2014 got a steal of a deal. Sick brand new update for not a lot more money. The guy with a 2005 looking at a 2019 can't understand wtf happened to the price of a new Corvette for such a small delta in upgrades. Isn't this what so many are upset about with the Z?

Looking at the trend from one year to the next in a vacuum doesn't give you the full picture of what's happened with the car's pricing from generation to generation.

The pricing of the Z is jarring because over its 11 year lifecycle, the 370Z increased half of one percent, and then jumped 33% to its current gen car, and it made that change in one model year rather than spreading it out over the lifecycle of the car like Chevy has. The point is, both cars have done the same thing - that's why those numbers are important.
 

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Perfectly logical - the reality is the upgrade gained in the baseline performance and capability getting into a C7 from the C6 is the exact same whether you split it between a 2013 and a 2014 model or a 2005 and a 2019 model. Therefore, that capability upgrade cost a buyer between 2% and 28% more money for the same upgrade. The guy with a 2013 going to a 2014 got a steal of a deal. Sick brand new update for not a lot more money. The guy with a 2005 looking at a 2019 can't understand wtf happened to the price of a new Corvette for such a small delta in upgrades. Isn't this what so many are upset about with the Z?

Looking at the trend from one year to the next in a vacuum doesn't give you the full picture of what's happened with the car's pricing from generation to generation.

The pricing of the Z is jarring because over its 11 year lifecycle, the 370Z increased half of one percent, and then jumped 33% to its current gen car, and it made that change in one model year rather than spreading it out over the lifecycle of the car like Chevy has. The point is, both cars have done the same thing - that's why those numbers are important.
Still not buying it, though. Unless you are implying that the price increase is literally and entirely linked to performance gains. That would be quite an argument to make and one that would be ludicrously hard (read: impossible) to justify, particularly on a macro, industry level. It completely ignores inflation, changes in manufacturing costs year-to-year, global transportation expenses, and basically any other economic variable that can cause a manufacturer to alter the price of a particular car from year-a to year-b (including their overall amortization of R&D cost strategy you alluded to earlier).

So, no, looking at a Corvette from 2005 and saying that the price of that car changed, relative to a 2019 Corvette, exclusively - or even primarily - because of its performance capability gains ignores way too much to reasonably let slide. Come on, you absolutely know that the performance gains between generations of vehicles are only one factor in the initial pricing (barring a mid-cycle refresh that brings more) and, even still, those gains are relative to the last of the outgoing model, not the first year of said model.

Look, I get that it's an absolute anomaly for the 370Z to change price so very little in such a long run, but it's increasingly feeling like you're intent on carrying water for their questionable pricing.
 

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Nissan dropped the 370z price by $3k in 2014 so maybe they will correct this pricing at some point if sales are tough for them after the first couple of years. But at the same time I’ve never lived through this kind of inflation so I don’t know what’s what anymore. Ford has increased Transit vans (needed for my business) by $6k since October so maybe the inflation changes everything. If you want to see really angry people go the order subsection of that forum. Some people ordered in 2021 still waiting and not hearing anything from Ford/dealerships while new, more valuable to Ford 2023 orders getting scheduled. That has softened my position on feeling that Nissan is overcharging.
 

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It seems pricing a product has way more emotional consideration to it than just engineering and aesthetic data points.

If you introduce a product that is totally different (in a very good way) from the previous generation, package it in a premium wrap, and market it as an alternative to much higher-priced products, well, then, you can justifiably jack up the price.

There's always some fool, ahem, buyer to pay the price.
 

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^ Only in very greedy companies run by selfish fools ... and it's those greedy asses who are one of the main causes of so-called "inflation".
 

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Dude, that's EVERY COMPANY.

Fuel and food are the main drivers of inflation.

I don't hear anyone complaining about the depressed pricing we had a couple of years ago. They were called "deals".
 

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Stats for the 2022 Corvette sales ...
  • Chevy produced 25,831 Corvettes for the 2022 model year. Of those cars, 52.1 per cent were coupes and 47.9 per cent were convertibles.
  • Breakdown of 12 color choices:
    • Torch Red: 4,147
    • Arctic White: 3,603
    • Hypersonic Gray: 3,291
    • Red Mist: 3,274
    • Black: 2,766
    • Rapid Blue: 2,261
    • Elkhart Lake Blue: 1,412
    • Amplify Orange: 1,375
    • Ceramic Matrix Gray: 1,202
    • Accelerate Yellow: 1,193
    • Silver Flare: 922
    • Caffeine: 385
  • 68.6 per cent of buyers opted for the Z51 Performance Package.
  • 58.8 per cent of buyers opted for the nose lift.
  • 86.9 per cent of buyers opted for the performance exhaust.
  • 1,542 buyers sprung for the Carbon Flash stripe option on the outside.
  • Only 27 buyers chose the Full Edge Orange exterior Stripes/Graphics package.
  • 442 Corvettes produced were right hand drive - 212 for Australia and New Zealand
  • 693 Corvettes were sent to Europe.

Plus, according to Jalopnik ...
Interestingly, all 25,831 Corvettes were selected with the “huge ass” package that makes the rear of the car look far too big for the rest of it. Strange.
:)
 

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I found out today a neighbor down the street has a '19 red Grandsport under a cover.
 
 





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