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Z fam…looking for some advice on a new wheel and tire setup.

I’ve been eyeing the 19” Advan GTs in white for my 24 Nismo, however they don’t come in OE sizes.

Without going down, all they have is a 19X10.5 all around, a 25 front and 15 rear offset with 265x40 in the front and 285x35 in the rear.

I’m afraid that might be too aggressive. Would appreciate any thoughts or feedback for those running aftermarket setups?

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if you're going to spend $5k on Advan GT's why would you get them in the super conservative stock sizes? There is very little "too aggressive" for the Z if you're willing to do it right

but

19x10.5 + 25 is a good, aggressive size in front that will need some camber.

however

19x10.5 +25 in the rear is extremely conservative and will look sunk.


Here is the Advan GT Beyond size chart from Yokohama Japan
https://yokohamawheel.jp/brand/advan_gt/index_jpn_beyond.html

I would look at
F 19x10 +25, 265/35 (26.3 inch diameter)
R 19x11 +15, 305/30 (26.2 inch diameter)

https://yokohamawheel.jp/brand/advan_gt/index_jpn_beyond.html

which should be fine on a stock or mild drop

Example of 19x11 +15 rears using Z34 for demonstration (fitment should be the same)
https://www.customwheeloffset.com/w...odhan-ds06-oem-stock-michelin-pilot-sport-4-s

https://www.fitmentindustries.com/w...370z-aodhan-ah02-oem-stock-vercelli-strada-ii

Exmple of 19x10 +25 (swift springs)
https://www.fitmentindustries.com/w...gs-lowering-springs-bridgestone-potenza-re-92

Thats your simplest path
I suspect this will look pretty good if you throw coils and arms at it as well.

If you are willing to push things further we can also talk about doing 20x10 +3 and 20x11 -1 . . .
 

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Funny I see this thread. I'm looking at a set, the fronts would be 19x9.5 +40 and the rears would be 20x11 +22. I would like a better offset up front but they only offer +40 unless i go 20s with +22 up front but idk if that would be possible. any thoughts?
 
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Funny I see this thread. I'm looking at a set, the fronts would be 19x9.5 +40 and the rears would be 20x11 +22. I would like a better offset up front but they only offer +40 unless i go 20s upfront but idk if that would be possible. any thoughts?
did u…not see my post?
 

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Funny I see this thread. I'm looking at a set, the fronts would be 19x9.5 +40 and the rears would be 20x11 +22. I would like a better offset up front but they only offer +40 unless i go 20s with +22 up front but idk if that would be possible. any thoughts?
11 +22 in the rear is aggressive. You'd want a 9.5 +20 in the front. Otherwise your 9.5 +40 will be sunken. Unless you going for that muscle car look

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11 +22 in the rear is aggressive. You'd want a 9.5 +20 in the front. Otherwise your 9.5 +40 will be sunken. Unless you going for that muscle car look

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11 +22 isnt aggressive

you realize the FACTORY nismo z34 came with 10.5 +23? That was sunk as hell

10.5 +12 ish should be baseline

11 +0 is optimal

11 -6 for the courageous
 

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these dudes put 10 +22 on the rears and they say it looks tucked and to go with 11's
 

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these dudes put 10 +22 on the rears and they say it looks tucked and to go with 11's
Dont listen to those YouTubers. They arent Z specialists and are giving extremely broad advice

again

FACTORY NISMO has 10.5 +23 rears:
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Even with a 285/35 it is sunk as hell on stock monster truck height

here is an RZ34
19x10.5 +22
19x11 +18
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this is solid fitment at minimal lowering and mild camber

id call that the minimum anyone should run on a Z

here us one of my previous setups
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That is GTR spec te37 ultras
20x11, +15 front
20x12 +20

fronts had pulled fenders and -3.5 camber, if I had to redo I would back back off the fronts because they were more aggressive than the rear. Or tried to find 20x12 +13’s

20x10.5 was the least aggressive size available with face 5 (maximum concave spoke design). Probably shoulda gone there to match the rears closer

Second setup

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20x10, +3
20x11, -1
Perfect spec in my opinion
Requires custom alignment of course

Current
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19x10, -1
19x11, -6 (would have preferred -1 again)
Becuz i liked the spoke design
 

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Just as a heads up, you really want to keep in mind what it really takes to run a lot of these fitments.

If you're just throwing wheels and tires on a stock suspension / stock alignment car, then you could have VERY different results than what is being shown in some of these posts.

For example, when we were doing early test fitting on these cars, we tried to see what kind of square setups we could get away with.

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This specific car is on 18x10.5" ET15 square. Now the tires are 305s, but you can still see that it's Poke City up front. Bone stock car otherwise.

So when you see some of these recommendations with similar size wheels/offset, wider wheels, lower offsets, etc. just make sure you're getting the full picture - tire sizing, tire model, and suspension alignment are extremely important. Also make sure to check if there's any fender modification required as well.

Nissan Z cars across a lot of generations tend to be able to fit a lot of wheel and tire without a lot of work, but there's always a limit.

If you're just looking to put wheels on an otherwise stock car, the 19x10.5" ET25 / ET15 combo you're looking at can work.

The fronts will poke without camber and a 265mm tire will be visibly stretched. Offset wise you probably want to be about 5-7mm more inboard on a 10.5-inch wheel or a 10-inch wheel with a similar ET25 offset.

If you're married to white 19-inch Advan GTs, then you're kinda stuck. If you're open to alternatives, a 19x10" ET25-28 front / 19x10.5" ET15 rear with 275mm and 295mm tires respectively would be my go to.
 

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Just as a heads up, you really want to keep in mind what it really takes to run a lot of these fitments.

If you're just throwing wheels and tires on a stock suspension / stock alignment car, then you could have VERY different results than what is being shown in some of these posts.

For example, when we were doing early test fitting on these cars, we tried to see what kind of square setups we could get away with.

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This specific car is on 18x10.5" ET15 square. Now the tires are 305s, but you can still see that it's Poke City up front. Bone stock car otherwise.

So when you see some of these recommendations with similar size wheels/offset, wider wheels, lower offsets, etc. just make sure you're getting the full picture - tire sizing, tire model, and suspension alignment are extremely important. Also make sure to check if there's any fender modification required as well.

Nissan Z cars across a lot of generations tend to be able to fit a lot of wheel and tire without a lot of work, but there's always a limit.

If you're just looking to put wheels on an otherwise stock car, the 19x10.5" ET25 / ET15 combo you're looking at can work.

The fronts will poke without camber and a 265mm tire will be visibly stretched. Offset wise you probably want to be about 5-7mm more inboard on a 10.5-inch wheel or a 10-inch wheel with a similar ET25 offset.

If you're married to white 19-inch Advan GTs, then you're kinda stuck. If you're open to alternatives, a 19x10" ET25-28 front / 19x10.5" ET15 rear with 275mm and 295mm tires respectively would be my go to.
id like to think it is abundantly clear that SPL adjustable front upper control arms and the rear setup open up nearly limitless possibilities

stock range i have said has always been based on Volk Racings original tecommendation a decade ago of 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +12

fine on stock, not aggressive enough when modded
 

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id like to think it is abundantly clear that SPL adjustable front upper control arms and the rear setup open up nearly limitless possibilities

stock range i have said has always been based on Volk Racings original tecommendation a decade ago of 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +12

fine on stock, not aggressive enough when modded
Hi - Could you please explain what you mean by "not aggressive enough when modded". Reason asked is I'm doing research on the exact spec you just mentioned "19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +12" which is what NISMO LMRS1 wheels are available in (as shown here in photo below). The setup I'm doing this research on will also have coilovers to dial in the lowered height just right. Do the coilovers qualify as "when modded"? If so, are you saying these wheels will be "not aggressive enough"?

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Hi - Could you please explain what you mean by "not aggressive enough when modded". Reason asked is I'm doing research on the exact spec you just mentioned "19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +12" which is what RAYS NISMO LMRS1 wheels are available in (as shown here in photo below). The setup I'm doing this research on will also have coilovers to dial in the lowered height just right. Do the coilovers qualify as "when modded"? If so, are you saying these wheels will be "not aggressive enough"?

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They will be closer to the fender than stock but wont entirely close the gap and depending on your height, there may be a finger or two of spacing

the recommended size tires were 265/35 and 305/30

this is my frustration:
19x10.5 +12 is the most aggressive size that Nismo wheels come in
Ok for stockish but once you try to go low, more aggressive would look alot better

the GTR size rears for TE37 or Advan Gt is 20x12 +20, which is sticks out 11mm more, and looks ALOT better

thats what i did for my Te37 ultras

oh and since you said you’re going lower with coilovers, you will want adjustable arms to set camber, caster and toe to the proper settings. I strongly, strongly recommend SPL parts

forgot the standard disclaimer:
Its your car
Statements about appearance are subjective
Yadayada
 
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They will be closer to the fender than stock but wont entirely close the gap and depending on your height, there may be a finger or two of spacing

the recommended size tires were 265/35 and 305/30

this is my frustration:
19x10.5 +12 is the most aggressive size that Nismo wheels come in
Ok for stockish but once you try to go low, more aggressive would look alot better

the GTR size rears for TE37 or Advan Gt is 20x12 +20, which is sticks out 11mm more, and looks ALOT better

thats what i did for my Te37 ultras

oh and since you said you’re going lower with coilovers, you will want adjustable arms to set camber, caster and toe to the proper settings. I strongly, strongly recommend SPL parts

forgot the standard disclaimer:
Its your car
Statements about appearance are subjective
Yadayada

Thanks much for the info. Appreciated.

I really like the NISMO LMRS1 wheels, and do understand now what you mean about their available offsets not being quite enough for perfect fitment appearance, but wouldn't a 5mm, possibly 10mm spacer correct that? I realize spacers are not ideal, but do you see any issues with that solution for dialing in the LMRS1s for someone such as self who does not track, but does do spirited driving around countryside? Do like a nice flush fitment with as minimum fender clearance as possible while still maintaining drivability. Tires for this setup I'm thinking Nitto NT555 G2 255/40ZR19 (FRONT) and NT555RII 305/35R19 (REAR)

Also, regarding your SPL recommendation; Would you mind advising exactly which items you're advising for dialing in alignment just right from their website? https://www.splparts.com/z-z34-2023/
 

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Thanks much for the info. Appreciated.

I really like the NISMO LMRS1 wheels, and do understand now what you mean about their available offsets not being quite enough for perfect fitment appearance, but wouldn't a 5mm, possibly 10mm spacer correct that? I realize spacers are not ideal, but do you see any issues with that solution for dialing in the LMRS1s for someone such as self who does not track, but does do spirited driving around countryside? Do like a nice flush fitment with as minimum fender clearance as possible while still maintaining drivability. Tires for this setup I'm thinking Nitto NT555 G2 255/40ZR19 (FRONT) and NT555RII 305/35R19 (REAR)

Also, regarding your SPL recommendation; Would you mind advising exactly which items you're advising for dialing in alignment just right from their website? https://www.splparts.com/z-z34-2023/
I know the question wasn't for me, but we see people track on spacers all the time. Plus some cars come with spacers from the factory.

Do extended wheel studs and hubcentric slip on spacers, you'll be perfectly fine.
 

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I know the question wasn't for me, but we see people track on spacers all the time. Plus some cars come with spacers from the factory.

Do extended wheel studs and hubcentric slip on spacers, you'll be perfectly fine.
Do spacers work, when done safely (extended studs or full bolt on)?
Yup

But if i'm shopping for $4K wheels i'd rather just...get wheels that fit?
 
 






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