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i actually just called toyota regarding manual supra, they dont have any eta unfortunately, but hinted that its more 2023+. did they provide you any timing?

i dont get how it disproves anything i said?

guys! can confirm a second delivery was spotted in honkong

almost forgot, but then remembered? not really hachiroku forum here though lol

400z is nissan s internal technical name and Z is just a gotomarket name the marketing department came up with later, they didnt match in this case but there s nothing unusual in it

i mean they started hitting dealerships like a month ago in some places

dont see a drift car option lol, thats what im gonna do

if only the new supra had similar front... not that beak?

its a local issue, beavers just love to gnaw synchros

i had the same feeling but with 53k supra you get a lighter and faster car, higher quality, better interior, higher potential, but the 40 grand Z has pretty much nothing apart from the not-even-400hp engine with lower potential.. so i m not sure even about Sport trim anymore seeing how poorly...

id say super unlikey, but if they did i assume price point would go much closer to gtr

im not even sure i would pay msrp?, it feels overpriced now after all the comparison and tests

also they all complained of a loose electric steering with less responsiveness and no feedback on drifting... so the DoUBle WiShBoNe argument now kinda quiestionable:(

watched both videos...a bit discouraging i must admit lol. makes me wanna think about mt supra more and more

regarding exhaust a few mentioned that they put a shitty one on the manual Z because everyone would change it anyways. this makes total sense(I d do the same for wheels) but shouldnt that make a Manual a lower MSRP?

that wasnt my point at all, my point was that "only moron can expect nissan beat bmw" is a cheap excuse because they absolutely could, they have all the capacity to do that, in either performance or price. they just did not, unfortunately, this time. which is quite disappointing

was there some embargo or something? wonder why all the dynos all the sudden. also interesting how curves are a bit diff

TE37SL would look better, CR Kai would look better, lowered car would look better. glad they people started playing with the car at least

dont think it is the case here? proto has absolutely nothing special, unfortunately

yeah but i guess VR38 swap is really the way to go to punish supras. Fosberg already did that, i wonder if they gonna produce engine mounts for the Z