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i haven’t looked super closely into the Z’s front plate mount, but is it the kind where they have to drill into something? Or is it a bracket that attaches around the grill? (Without drilling).

I’ll leave it off (if we ever get a chance to purchase a manual Z). It’s required here in Washington, but I didn’t have one on my old BRZ and never got pulled over. And if I do, it’s a “donation to the state” that I’ll gladly make.

Lee Johnson? I hate that these words are coming out of my mouth, but i could live with $5k over. Once they’ve fixed the manual transmission…

Rivian may be rare and expensive, but they're out on the road. There are two in my neighborhood. Can’t say the same for the Z. I know the Z isn’t out yet and that’s sort of the problem. And when it does…no one will actually be able to buy one. I predict I’ll see more Rivians than Zs. But...

I admit, I actually sort of like it. 🤷‍♂️