Z35's competition

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370Z specs:
Engine 3.7L VQ37VHR V6
Wheelbase 2,550 mm (100.4 in)
Length 4,240 mm (166.9 in)
Width 1,850 mm (72.8 in)
Height 1,320 mm (52.0 in)
Curb weight 3,232 lb (1,466 kg)

Main competitors specs:
Genesis Coupe
Engine 2.0L Turbo Theta I4: 210 hp (160 kW) (2009–2012)
2.0L Turbo Theta I4: 274 hp (204 kW)(2013–2014 )[1]
3.8L Lambda V6: 306 hp (228 kW) (2009–2012)
3.8L Lambda
Wheelbase 2,820 mm (111.0 in)
Length 4,630 mm (182.3 in)
Width 1,865 mm (73.4 in)
Height 1,380 mm (54.3 in) (2009-2012)
1,385 mm (54.5 in) (2013-)
Curb weight 1,494–1,525 kg (3,294–3,362 lb) (2.0T)
1,537–1,639 kg (3,389–3,613 lb) (3.8)

Toyobaru twins (FT86)
Engine 2.0 L 4U-GSE / FA20 boxer engine
Wheelbase 2,570 mm (101.2 in)
Length 4,240 mm (166.9 in)
4,234 mm (166.7 in) (Subaru BRZ)
Width 1,775 mm (69.9 in)
Height 1,285 mm (50.6 in)
Curb weight 1,190–1,298 kg (2,624–2,862 lb) (Toyota 86)
1,251–1,273 kg (2,758–2,806 lb) (Scion FR-S)

New Mustang:
Engine 2.3L Turbocharged EcoBoost I4
3.7L "Cyclone" V6
5.0L "Coyote" V8
Wheelbase 107.1 in (2,720 mm)
Length 188.3 in (4,784 mm)
Width 75.4 in (1,916 mm)
Height 54.4 in (1,381 mm)

Current Camaro:
Engine
- 3.6 L LLT V6 (2010–11)
- 3.6 L LFX V6 (2012-)
- 6.2 L LS3 V8 (Manual SS only)
- 6.2 L L99 V8 (Auto SS only)
- 6.2 L LSA V8 supercharged (ZL1)
- 7.0 L LS7 V8 (Z/28)
Wheelbase 112.3 in (2,852 mm)
Length 190.4 in (4,840 mm)
Width 75.5 in (1,920 mm)
Height 54.2 in (1,380 mm)
Curb weight 3,750 lb (1,700 kg)


Any others I'm missing? These seem to be the main targets.

 

[tetsuo]

If they can get it to sub 3000 pounds and trim a few inches it will truly be contending for class leading and probably put a hurt on the toyota 86 sales.

 

[MeisterZ]

I'm shocked the Z and FRS are basically the same length. FRS always seemed smaller to me. Maybe it's the 2 extra inch height.

 

[Dantes]

Yes defnitely the added bulk and height that makes the Z look bigger than the FRS.

Check this out:

I still dont know how they managed to squeeze backseats into that.

Then again... when you sit back there, sad face.

 

[chromeX]

LOL @ that last pic Dantes. The Z definitely looks bloated next to the Scion.

And sadly it's also 400+ lbs heavier. Can you imagine if we got the VQ engine power in a package as light as the Scion.

 

[Cramer]

Should add the performance specs too. Of course the mustang/camaro are hard to compete with when you look at those but man they are just too porky. Look at the weights!

 

[J_Watts]

I"m curious how the 370z and FRS are pretty much the same size but 400 pounds difference??
The FRS even has back seats. Did they use some kind of lightweight material?

 

[MillerP]

I dont think the mustang or camaro belong in this list. They are not direct competitors with the FRS or Genesis coupe so why would they be for the Z? Price wise it has crept up to the mid 30's starting and optioned up to 45 and up. The Z will get crushed if it prices there IMO.

 

[FLex]

Yeesh I didn't realize just how light the FR-S is. That is pretty impressive to make a car under 3,000 pounds in this day and age.

The good news is even the current 370Z is pretty competitive in weight with those competition. Shed 200 pounds and it would be nearly class leading in its performance bracket.

 

[Dantes]

Shed 200 pounds and it would be nearly class leading in its performance bracket.

Definitely possible with a new platform and smaller overall car.

 

[Adam]

If they keep the Z six cylinders then the biggest competitors are gonna be the Mustang and Camaro. If they go 4 cylinders then the FR-S/BRZ and 4 cylinder Mustang (and Camaro if the next one comes with 4 cyl model).

 

[nismoZ]

The domestic brands have stepped up their game in the areas they were most criticized.... more refined, better interiors, less retro overall.

Nissan Z is gonna have to stand out in some way. It will have a tough time competing on power-to-price but I'm thinking a modern DCT and higher quality finishes would be a good start.

 

[Brickyard]

1st Gen QX50 ( EX EX35 EX37 Skyline GT370 Crossover 2008-2016 ( 2016-17 specs) J50L Platform:
Engine 3.7L VQ37VHR V6 325 HP@7000 RPM - Torque 267@5200 RPM
Wheelbase 113.4."
Length 186.8"
Width 68"
Height 62.7"
Curb weight 3850 lbs.

How about a Cousin Branded INFINITI with a VQ mounted the correct old fashioned way - RWD ( avail AWD ~ RW Biased )
with room for 5 and some stuff ~ and even more stuff strapped to the roof rack ~ power fold rear seats ( holds mountain bikes ) ~ 7 Sp Downshift Rev Matching AT that can beslapped around manually ~

Sort of a G37 Shooting Brake ~ Assembled in Japan ~ Surprising Sleeper ~ FMS ~ Mechanical Steering ~ Performance Thing

Plenty of these out there in the Used market with lower miles ( under 30,000K ) price in the low to mid $20s - Plenty of Bang for the Buck if you can deal with its looks

For those needing to haul a bit more stuff and more than 1 other passenger ~ it really is a Competitor