West Aussie
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Is it telling that the most active thread at present, is the one talking about alternatives?
Probably because Nissan has been taking unreasonably long to show us the car. Imagine they made us wait all this time and deliver a car that is below par compared to its competitors.Is it telling that the most active thread at present, is the one talking about alternatives?
So far it's been nine months since Nissan first spoke about the Z proto, and truth be told most of the information we even have of this car has been from leaks.Probably because Nissan has been taking unreasonably long to show us the car. Imagine they made us wait all this time and deliver a car that is below par compared to its competitors.
It's not long at all by industry standards. The typical time between prototype unveiling to production can be 3-5 years. It can vary though, I think the Tesla Roadster prototype unveiling was in 2006- so, it can really vary. (production issues can happen)So far it's been nine months since Nissan first spoke about the Z proto, and truth be told most of the information we even have of this car has been from leaks.
I can't say if that's long or not because I never really cared about vehicle releases like that, but it definitely feels long, and the vague responses really don't help.
My main issue is they haven't released a price bracket they're aiming for, every other manufacturer does this, Toyota did it with the GR86 ford did it with that new Maverick.It's not long at all by industry standards. The typical time between prototype unveiling to production can be 3-5 years. It can vary though, I think the Tesla Roadster prototype unveiling was in 2006- so, it can really vary. (production issues can happen)
The main difference to me is that Nissan advertised the Z Proto as near production state. This, I think, is why people have set their expectations so high for a production/spec announcement. The Z proto was announced in September 2020, so only 9 months have passed, as you pointed out. Relatively speaking, it's still pretty early to expect final values and production.
On top of that, I suspect we're in a bit of a production hell with logistics still recovering from the pandemic, so delays are expected- some car manufacturers have fleets of vehicles awaiting superconductors. Nissan is also in turbulent times.
I guess I'm the Nissan shill of the forum at this point but in my mind there's nothing unreasonable about the wait time just yet. If Nissan hasn't released new information at the year mark, so by September, it might feel a little less reasonable to me. Unreasonable seems to me to be at one and a half or two years.
Where did you see Toyota release a bracket price? Everywhere I've seen has noted that Toyota still hasn't announced a price. The most I've seen is estimated prices by different news reporters. In fact, you have places like KBB reporting "While Toyota has yet to announced prices for the revamp of the 86, we expect them to come in close to the current base price of about $27,000." While Carbuzz expects it to be at $31,000.My main issue is they haven't released a price bracket they're aiming for, every other manufacturer does this, Toyota did it with the GR86 ford did it with that new Maverick.
It can take as long as it wants as long as I know it's even worth buying or not, all I want is a rough estimate of the base price.
Neither the average household nor the average individual is buying this car regardless of its price.The average household income is almost 69k, but average individual is about 36k.
I've only gone head to head against the 981.are you referring to the 981 or 718 generation
I hate clickbait titles so much. Most of that article is convincing people to buy the Z moreThe Nissan Z Is Expected To Cost $40k, Here Are 10 Other RWD Coupes You Can Buy Instead, And Why You Should
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/08/t...oupes-you-can-buy-instead-and-why-you-should/
Agreed, but some of the "Why you wouldn't" parts are pretty comical. Even when complimenting the Mk5 they have to throw in that it looks like it’s driven over a fire hydrantI hate clickbait titles so much. Most of that article is convincing people to buy the Z more