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First gen was in 1979, as the Celica Supra.First gen meaning the Celica Supra?
And second gen meaning the MK3 square body 7m supra?
Third gen was the MK3
First gen was in 1979, as the Celica Supra.First gen meaning the Celica Supra?
And second gen meaning the MK3 square body 7m supra?
No offense to those who love Supra.
The A70 ('90) was my dream car as a college student but I could not afford one.
The A80 just looked strange to me. It appealed to a crowd w/o me in it.
The J29/A90 continues what 2nd gen looked like. Even worse... it has unreliable BMW stuff in it.
I used to own an E39 540iA for 8 yrs.
I lost count of how many issues I had with that thing.
It was great when it ran, though.
I think he's talking about when the Supra became it's own model. Some people do view the A40 and A60 as a higher trim Celica and not a real "Supra".First gen meaning the Celica Supra?
And second gen meaning the MK3 square body 7m supra?
Z Proto
Length 172.5 inches
Width 72.8 inches
Height 51.6 inches
Wheelbase ??? (370z @ 100.4 inches)
Supra
Length 172.5 in.
Width 73.0 in.
Height 50.9 in.
Wheelbase 97.2 in.
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Probably because the twin's chassis is newer. There is only so much Nissan can do with the 20 yo FM platform.Disagree that Nissan should ignore the twins (BRZ & 86) as competitors. With its new engine the twins' acceleration will be much better. Not as good as the Z's of course but then it will likely handle better - the current twins are found in all review comparisons to handle better than the 370Z. (And as good as if not better than an MX-5, see the recent Grassroots Motorsports video review of a 2020 86.)
So in cross shopping as I am you are looking at likely tradeoffs, more power and highway cruising comfort versus more agility and reponsiveness. Looking forward to reviews of both.
Man...I was hoping a manual would be on offer...might get Nissan to pull out their fingerFor those that haven't seen it Toyota just announced the 2022 MY Supra. No: manual, power boost, wind buffeting fix, or any other fixes people are complaining about. They just throw on some carbon pieces for a special edition and offer red leather again. I guess the yearly improvement comment from Tada-san was just a marketing ploy. It seems like Toyota just throw their hands up in the air and called it a day.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-launches-exclusive-gr-supra-a91-cf-edition-for-2022.9311/
I think the Cayman should definitely be considered as competition for the Z. I’m cross shopping a GT4 against this new Z. There’s likely others doing similar.I said all that up there before I realized the 718 had gotten all the way to $60k entry price. So maybe not the Cayman. But my point still stands.
It isn't really a competition between these two for me, considering the GT4 starts at what... $101k? The two are so far apart on price that it's hard to say they are competing in the same market, but maybe I'm just speaking in poor.I think the Cayman should definitely be considered as competition for the Z. I’m cross shopping a GT4 against this new Z. There’s likely others doing similar.
I think the 2.0 will get a stick soon, I'll LOL if after the Z drops all of a sudden stick becomes an option across the range.For those that haven't seen it Toyota just announced the 2022 MY Supra. No: manual, power boost, wind buffeting fix, or any other fixes people are complaining about. They just throw on some carbon pieces for a special edition and offer red leather again. I guess the yearly improvement comment from Tada-san was just a marketing ploy. It seems like Toyota just throw their hands up in the air and called it a day.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-launches-exclusive-gr-supra-a91-cf-edition-for-2022.9311/
A GT4 is better in every way and also AT LEAST $50k more than the new Z will likely be. Definitely not competition at all as it's in a whole other league. If you can afford a GT4, the new Z shouldn't even cross your mind because it won't come close.I think the Cayman should definitely be considered as competition for the Z. I’m cross shopping a GT4 against this new Z. There’s likely others doing similar.
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Every time I see the "GRMN" name I can only think about a cheesey joke about the car being German.I think the 2.0 will get a stick soon, I'll LOL if after the Z drops all of a sudden stick becomes an option across the range.
And I think the GRMN Supra will have a stick as well.