Andaesthetics
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Supra vs Z has been the topic of rivalry debate since the Z Proto was revealed. But honestly I don't think the new Supra is as competitive as the new Mustang GT when it comes to the actual sports car market that these cars are in.
Why do I believe this? Well let's break down both the Supra and Mustang GT.
-2021 Mustang GT
MSRP ~$37,000
Manual or Automatic 10-speed
5.0L V8 460 HP
~3700lbs
-2021 Supra 3.0
MSRP ~$51,000
Automatic 8-speed only
3.0L I6 turbocharged 382HP
~3400lbs
Now if we look at the sales of the Supra vs Mustang it's not even close by any margin. The Mustang has remained the #1 selling sports car for the last several years. In 2020 alone over 60,000 Mustangs were sold compared to under 6,000 Supras. Over 10x as many sold! And if we look at 2021 sales so far, the Mustang is again on track to sell 10x as many cars than the Supra. Now of course those figure take into account all of the Mustang model ranges, but I'm sure a big chunk of that 60,000 figure are the GT model.
Now you might say, "Well the Mustang and Supra are two different cars for two different car enthusiasts." Well yes they are two different cars, but at the end of the day they are both SPORTS cars. They both compete in the same sports car market. You could also say, "Well the Mustang is cheaper than the Supra." Well guess what, even new Corvettes have been selling more than the new Supra and they Corvettes are thousands or tens of thousands more than the new Supra!
Why are Mustangs selling more? Because they offer great performance and appeal for the price. Why are the new Corvettes selling more? Because they offer great performance and appeal for the price. If they priced the Supra at a more competitive price, or if it offered better performance it would sell much better than what it currently does.
If we're talking JDM car culture specifically then, yes the Supra is the main competitor, but if we're talking performance, pricing, and sales, the Mustang GT ticks every box over the Supra. Nissan has been in a hole for some years now and they need to get themselves out of that hole. How can the new Z help them do that? By pricing it more competitively than the Supra and close to the Mustang GT. Nissan is already one up by having a manual option. Performance we can expect the 400HP TTV6. However, pricing is crucial for the success of the new Z. When everything is said and done the only thing that matters is what you get for the money. Money is ultimately what decides the cars we buy.
Feel free to discuss your opinions or why you disagree.
Why do I believe this? Well let's break down both the Supra and Mustang GT.
-2021 Mustang GT
MSRP ~$37,000
Manual or Automatic 10-speed
5.0L V8 460 HP
~3700lbs
-2021 Supra 3.0
MSRP ~$51,000
Automatic 8-speed only
3.0L I6 turbocharged 382HP
~3400lbs
Now if we look at the sales of the Supra vs Mustang it's not even close by any margin. The Mustang has remained the #1 selling sports car for the last several years. In 2020 alone over 60,000 Mustangs were sold compared to under 6,000 Supras. Over 10x as many sold! And if we look at 2021 sales so far, the Mustang is again on track to sell 10x as many cars than the Supra. Now of course those figure take into account all of the Mustang model ranges, but I'm sure a big chunk of that 60,000 figure are the GT model.
Now you might say, "Well the Mustang and Supra are two different cars for two different car enthusiasts." Well yes they are two different cars, but at the end of the day they are both SPORTS cars. They both compete in the same sports car market. You could also say, "Well the Mustang is cheaper than the Supra." Well guess what, even new Corvettes have been selling more than the new Supra and they Corvettes are thousands or tens of thousands more than the new Supra!
Why are Mustangs selling more? Because they offer great performance and appeal for the price. Why are the new Corvettes selling more? Because they offer great performance and appeal for the price. If they priced the Supra at a more competitive price, or if it offered better performance it would sell much better than what it currently does.
If we're talking JDM car culture specifically then, yes the Supra is the main competitor, but if we're talking performance, pricing, and sales, the Mustang GT ticks every box over the Supra. Nissan has been in a hole for some years now and they need to get themselves out of that hole. How can the new Z help them do that? By pricing it more competitively than the Supra and close to the Mustang GT. Nissan is already one up by having a manual option. Performance we can expect the 400HP TTV6. However, pricing is crucial for the success of the new Z. When everything is said and done the only thing that matters is what you get for the money. Money is ultimately what decides the cars we buy.
Feel free to discuss your opinions or why you disagree.