Toyota Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86

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This looks so good.. The screen is a little out of place. Always want the first round of this car but the Z got the better part of me. I would consider this but can't deny the TT Z I've been dreaming about for years..
 

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^ LOL. I'd love to live somewhere (or maybe on some world) where the Z is only going to be $5k more than a GR86. Here in Canada it's not going to start for less than $42k, which will be at least $10k CAD more than the base GR86 - probably closer to $15k. I'd love to be proven wrong....
 

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Z of course
 

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Looks decent, but way underpowered IMO.
 

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These aren't comparable, they are in two different classes entirely.
Like these press people comparing a Leaf to a Tesla - just because they are both electric. I always get a laugh out of those writers.
That said, the 86 and BRZ have both taken a big step forward. Lots of questions to be answered there. Again it's faster than a Miata, but this time it might actually - might - out-accelerate an S2000. It will depend on the driver.
In any case it's not competition to the Z because it's in a very different price range, down market.
 

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We're getting both. Picking up a BRZ or 86 late this year or early next year, and a Z most likely in '23.
 
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