Official: U.S. 2023 Nissan Z priced at $39,990 Sport, $49,990 Performance, $52,900 Proto Spec (Now Including Exterior/Interior Color Combos)

[MaelstroM]

It’s interesting that there’s a fair amount of defense for the pricing of the performance trim - I believe the general disappointment is justified.

A couple of caveats - this only applies to the US market, and I’m comparing 2022 Supra vs 2023 Z pricing:

Comparing Z performance to Supra 3.0 (non premium) with destination, the Supra is ~$2000 more.

Supra pros:
- Adaptive suspension
- Closer to 50:50 weight distribution
- Underbody aero
- BMW-quality interior + iDrive
- 14-way power adjustable seats
- 1 year NASA + 1 HPDE

Z pros:
- Center console layout
- wireless Apple Carplay, Android Auto
- GTR-inspired steering wheel
- Physical e-brake

Unknown pro or con:
- Type of LSD
- Brembo vs. Nissan brakes
- Feel and quality of manual transmission
- Michelin vs. Bridgestone tires
- 10-speaker HiFi vs 8-speaker bose
- Cargo area size and shape
- Aesthetics / Styling

Barring style and aesthetics that are subject to personal taste, I think it’s fair to say that the Supra is better value *on paper* in light of the announced pricing.

 

[240SX]

No real enthusiast would want an enthusiast car axed.

Right, that’s the difference between fanboys and car enthusiasts.

 

[Z_Dude]

I like everything about the car minus the price tag and the no LSD on the sport trim. $10k price gap is big. I'll be looking for one on the used market in a few years or when I can negotiate a new performance trim for the price of a Sport. Until then, you had everything going for you Nissan but you overpriced the Z by $5k-10K, and now the Supra is offering a manual so we'll see how things turn out.

 

[DevonK]

be looking for one on the used market in a few years or when I can negotiate a new performance trim for the price of a Sport

I take it you're a believer in reincarnation....

 

[XinaZ]

93 Tune ONLY. Stock exhaust, stock cats.
11.61 1/4 mile
3.53 0-60

 

[nisslover]

93 Tune ONLY. Stock exhaust, stock cats.
11.61 1/4 mile
3.53 0-60

SHEESH!

 

[XinaZ]

SHEESH!

EXACTLY. A 4 door did that without all of the upgraded cooling, new recirculation valve and about 350+ pounds heavier than the Z ..oh and without that 9 SPEED trans.

 

[Haste]

They'll sell every car they can build for a while but I would've liked to see the Performance come in at least a few grand cheaper. $45,990-46,990 seems more reasonable to me. No real issue with the Sport price as it's pretty spot on with what a lot of us expected.

I'm holding off for a Nismo as originally planned, but I'd pass on a Perf @ $50k if I wasn't.

 

[jose3030]

EXACTLY. A 4 door did that without all of the upgraded cooling, new recirculation valve and about 350+ pounds heavier than the Z ..oh and without that 9 SPEED trans.

From all my friends that have Q50 and Q60's, their 7 speed is pure trash.
this 9 speed will destroy it.
Can't wait to see tunes!

 

[supraboi]

2023 Nissan Z Starts At $39,990 In The U.S., Undercuts Supra 3.0 By $12,925

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/05/2...0-in-the-u-s-undercutting-supra-3-0-by-12925/

 

[LeatherWings]

When did you put in your order? Did you get it yet? If not, do you have an ETA?

Just wondering cuz I put in an order (request) for a Miata Club back in March, but I still don't have a solid ETA. I may end up cancelling the order since I now have an NA Miata....

I put my order in mid February. Did you get your VIN?
....

mine says arrival to dealer at May 30th and I assume they have to PDI it, or maybe the ship is delayed or something (I hope not)

Ok, so I actually got a call today from my sales guy at the local Mazda. He had an updated ETA of early-mid July. He said they'd collect the fully-refundable deposit once they get a VIN. He even told me if I don't buy it even after it gets shipped to them from Japan, they'll just mark it up and sell it from their lot, lol.

Man, I know I said I might cancel... but now that owning a brand new 2022 Miata at MSRP is closer to reality, I just might have to do it!!!

Gonna be hard to ignore that devil on my shoulder...

 

[twlai]

$45k would be the sweet spot for the performance
$41k for base with limited diff.

There is no reason to build a proper RWD sport car without limited differential!

$51k is too much for this car, I will have to fell back to GR86

 

[Orion]

Ok, so I actually got a call today from my sales guy at the local Mazda. He had an updated ETA of early-mid July. He said they'd collect the fully-refundable deposit once they get a VIN. He even told me if I don't buy it even after it gets shipped to them from Japan, they'll just mark it up and sell it from their lot, lol.

Man, I know I said I might cancel... but now that owning a brand new 2022 Miata at MSRP is closer to reality, I just might have to do it!!!

Gonna be hard to ignore that devil on my shoulder...

Just go for it. I mean it's at msrp.

 

[Drseckzytime]

lol i bet non of the nissan higher ups will even enter chat to talk about this

Dan's probably gone, he's been gone basically. He knew the shizzstorm that was brewing in here. $52-53k for a decent color premium, what a joke. And it's missing so much tech, quality, and performance compared to the other cars. Then Toyota came in and did them dirty with the manual announcement we all knew was coming.

 

[jc604]

Dan's probably gone, he's been gone basically. He knew the shizzstorm that was brewing in here. $52-53k for a decent color premium, what a joke. And it's missing so much tech, quality, and performance compared to the other cars. Then Toyota came in and did them dirty with the manual announcement we all knew was coming.

Whatever happened to that mclovin guy charging 5k markups and saying it would still undercut supra