Nissan Z vs. Subaru BRZ - POV Driving Impressions

[supraboi]

 

[because_murica]

Topher again compliments the steering feel of the Z (and also states he seems to generally prefer the Z over the Supra for it's better ergonomics and livability).

That's Topher and SG against Cammisa on steering feel.

 

[jezzza]

Solid comparison. I like that he thinks the Z's gear ratios make the power very usable on the streets.

 

[Sam_AusZ32]

Watching this now, this review is really well done. He mentions that it's still a visceral and engaging driving experience, and likens it to the 90's JDM hero's- I can't express how bloody keen I am to get behind the wheel.
Hopefully not long now!

 

[trackratZ]

Nice decent review on both. One take though, does anyone think the infotainment screen esp with more reliance on using nav nowadays, should be higher and the vents placed on each side. That's the only gripe I have on the new Z. I know maybe because of the 370Z-based, but can be improved.

 

[Supremekai]

Nice decent review on both. One take though, does anyone think the infotainment screen esp with more reliance on using nav nowadays, should be higher and the vents placed on each side. That's the only grip I have on the new Z. I know maybe because of the 370Z-based, but can be improved.

We don't get Nav though.

 

[StrikeS30]

Actually quite an honest and in-depth review. Nice to see that BRZ still does really well, even when compared to the Z. It's always something I've considered purchasing in the past. They're such great little cars for what they are.

 

[jezzza]

One take though, does anyone think the infotainment screen esp with more reliance on using nav nowadays, should be higher and the vents placed on each side.

IMO Nissan not sticking a distracting infotainment screen high in the cabin was an excellent design decision aesthetically. If eye level navigation is a priority, Performance trim (except in Canada) can display navigation in the instrument panel.

 

[trackratZ]

IMO Nissan not sticking a distracting infotainment screen high in the cabin was an excellent design decision aesthetically. If eye level navigation is a priority, Performance trim (except in Canada) can display navigation in the instrument panel.

Totally agree, not the propped up above dash type, I’m talking about just shift it higher in the dash and move the vents to its side.

 

[2017370ZBlack]

Actually quite an honest and in-depth review. Nice to see that BRZ still does really well, even when compared to the Z. It's always something I've considered purchasing in the past. They're such great little cars for what they are.

Never cared for the Subaru engine.
By the way, Camissa has a punchable face. Can't stand that smug clown.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Nice to see that BRZ still does really well, even when compared to the Z. It's always something I've considered purchasing in the past. They're such great little cars for what they are.

The new Z is obviously more powerful (partly needs to be since it's also heavier) and a bit better refined as a "GT experience", but the BRZ/Toyota 86 is perhaps the better "driver's car" because it doesn't have electronic gimmickry interfering in the steering and gearstick, and being lighter is likely more nimble feeling.

Both have silly reverse gear selection methods though - there's no need to have a push-down / pull-up system.

 

[because_murica]

The new Z is obviously more powerful (partly needs to be since it's also heavier) and a bit better refined as a "GT experience", but the BRZ/Toyota 86 is perhaps the better "driver's car" because it doesn't have electronic gimmickry interfering in the steering and gearstick, and being lighter is likely more nimble feeling.

Both have silly reverse gear selection methods though - there's no need to have a push-down / pull-up system.

How is epas gimmick? It eliminates the need for a pump, and if done right, get be pretty close to the feel of a hydraulic system.

And how is the gear stick gimmicky? Because of the auto rev match? That can be turned off. Not to mention that I wouldn't mind it in heavy traffic.

And the push down/pull up reverse is a lockout mechanism.

 

[takemorepills]

Nice decent review on both. One take though, does anyone think the infotainment screen esp with more reliance on using nav nowadays, should be higher and the vents placed on each side. That's the only gripe I have on the new Z. I know maybe because of the 370Z-based, but can be improved.

Could care less.
My wife's new Toyota has the higher up screen compared to my Q60. Doesn't affect my feelings between either car.

I'd be happy with a double DIN blank.

 

[jezzza]

Could care less.

I think that you mean "couldn't care less"?

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

get be pretty close to the feel of a hydraulic system

You must be an engineer ..."pretty close is close enough".

auto rev match? That can be turned off

Yes it can, but it's still an extra electronic gimmick attached to the system. Something else that could go wrong and cause problems.

And the push down/pull up reverse is a lockout mechanism.

It's completely unnecessary. There's no such silliness on my 200sx, nor any of my families previous cars since the 1970s (my mother's current VW doesn't count since it's the one automatic we ever had), nor any non-automatic loan car from the mechanic / paint shop or work car I've ever driven ... and I've never met anyone who has accidentally shifted into reverse while driving.