Hands Up all the Aussies

[West Aussie]

Back from the dealership!

As expected no news to report, however the sales manager did take me through all their correspondence with Nissan regarding the Z. It was interesting but there isn't much to report that Nissan didn't release publicly.

I saw the list of reservations submitted and I do apologise for my misinformation @West Aussie, "ordering through the back door" is a very accurate description of what took place. A boring old spreadsheet was emailed through and later merged with a bigger spreadsheet for all reservations (or preorders) nationally.

I did learn that Nissan dealerships are provided with build and VIN numbers for all models as soon as individual builds hit the production line, it would be an odd exception if the Z is any different. No build details have been received for any Australian Zs yet, uncertain what this means..

Sales manager fully agrees that shipping any media or demonstration vehicles before preorders are fulfilled would be illogical and likely do more harm than good.

Great feedback.
Yep….I still get your meaning though. It’s still is not really an order, just a reservation, a spot in the list via the back door.
No one really has a contract till VINs are on them, because without that you have no car allocated

Given your information, and that dealers do not have any VINs I’d say they haven’t even been built yet which is highly frustrating.
I’d say it would take around 3-4 weeks to build Aus specs, another 3-4 weeks for shipping.

We won’t see these cars until late August at best…is my guess as much as I hate to say it

 

[jezzza]

No one really has a contract till VINs are on them, because without that you have no car allocated.

I know this has been mentioned/debated in our fb group a few times, but the sales manager did confirm that it is 100% accurate.

Given your information, and that dealers do not have any VINs I’d say they haven’t even been built yet which is highly frustrating.

Dealerships have not been notified of any delays whatsoever. There's internal correspondence (and media articles) stating that deliveries are scheduled to commence July, but I think we can all agree that it's looking pretty unlikely.

I'll stand by my opinion that dealers suggesting an August, October or September delivery (while very possible) is still just unfounded speculation.

 

[Tdog87]

Just had a call from my dealership to confirm my order.

I was upfront and told them I am still on the fence and asked how long I have to confirm.

I was told that I need to confirm my order by 12pm Monday otherwise I will miss out. Told them I will get back to them on Monday and let them know.

I find it a little bit unfair to confirm to a limited edition model without knowing yet how many will be available.

I have a couple of days to make a decision and will update then.

 

[jezzza]

Just had a call from my dealership to confirm my order.

Just had the same call from no doubt the same lady wanting to confirm my “400Z” order. Said she’d been asked by Nissan. What is going on? It’s getting utterly ridiculous.

 

[jezzza]

I have a couple of days to make a decision and will update then.

You might as well keep the reservation, you’re not committed until you sign a contract.

 

[West Aussie]

You might as well keep the reservation, you’re not committed until you sign a contract.

So are you guys at the same dealer?
And sorry, because once again I can’t remember what everyone has on order, but did you guys want the Proto?…if memory serves me right @jezzza you wanted Boulder right?
@Tdog87 was it a Proto?

I’d understand if it was Protos because my first thought is they have over subscribed and trying to lock in people so they know how to allocate, but not for all cars.

Dealers in WA do not open on Sunday, so be interested to see if we get a call on Monday.

Thing is, we put in a Pre Order, then they checked on those pre orders a couple of months ago…how many times do they need to ask. Just get the bloody cars here…this has been the worst roll out I’ve ever heard of. Delays I can deal with, but communication sucks, and double triple checking orders when they dint even have cars to sell is ridiculous

 

[West Aussie]

Just had a call from my dealership to confirm my order.

I was upfront and told them I am still on the fence and asked how long I have to confirm.

I was told that I need to confirm my order by 12pm Monday otherwise I will miss out. Told them I will get back to them on Monday and let them know.

I find it a little bit unfair to confirm to a limited edition model without knowing yet how many will be available.

I have a couple of days to make a decision and will update then.

P.S I’d tell them, I’ll tell you when you tell me if you hav3 a car to sell to me

 

[jezzza]

if memory serves me right @jezzza you wanted Boulder right?
@Tdog87 was it a Proto?

Yeah that's correct, Proto and Boulder here in Brisbane.

Think I've finally snapped, Z fatigue has kicked in and excitement is quickly turning into frustration.
Best I put my mind elsewhere until we actually hear something positive.

 

[West Aussie]

Yeah that's correct, Proto and Boulder here in Brisbane.

Think I've finally snapped, Z fatigue has kicked in and excitement is quickly turning into frustration.
Best I put my mind elsewhere until we actually hear something positive.

I get it…completely understand the frustration …Nissans doing a good job at putting people off of their cars, if they are not careful they will lose us all.

As I said, I understand there have been set backs, but it’s the back and forth, the different info given to us all, and the lack of solid information that’s just taking the shine off of this
If I’d given in and gone for a MX5 when I first felt like this, I’d have it in my driveway in two weeks, but I didn’t, so if I give up now I’ve still got a 6 month wait for that to come, and of course as soon as I ordered the Z would show up

It’s extremely frustrating…all we are asking for is some openness and transparancey

 

[Tdog87]

Just had the same call from no doubt the same lady wanting to confirm my “400Z” order.

Yeah it is a little concerning that dealerships are still refering to it as the "400Z" when it has been known and confirmed to be called just Z for what 6 months now.

You might as well keep the reservation, you’re not committed until you sign a contract.

I will check with the dealer on Monday. If all it is is to just confirm my reservation and I am not locked in and can still my deposit back until I actually get a contract then I will definitely confirm.

So are you guys at the same dealer?
And sorry, because once again I can’t remember what everyone has on order, but did you guys want the Proto?…if memory serves me right @jezzza you wanted Boulder right?
@Tdog87 was it a Proto?

As Jezzza has already confirmed we are with the same dealer and yes I have an order for the Proto.

I’d understand if it was Protos because my first thought is they have over subscribed and trying to lock in people so they know how to allocate, but not for all cars.

It might be different for the Proto as there is a finite number of them but Jezzza got the same call so possibly just the same thing for confirmation.

Still find it frustrating that we are apparently so close to launch and they still haven't officially confirmed how many Proto's will be available here as that will influence my decision on the car.

 

[jezzza]

Did anyone order the red upholstery?

Going through the build options online it looks like it may have been pulled.

 

[West Aussie]

Did anyone order the red upholstery?

Going through the build options online it looks like it may have been pulled.

Nope ….but I kinda suspected it would be the case, when do we usually get multiple choices of interior

 

[jezzza]

Nope ….but I kinda suspected it would be the case, when do we usually get multiple choices of interior

On a positive note, it does bring possible build combinations from 38 down to 20.
Much better odds of the right car turning up!

 

[khoi242]

I actually ordered the red with the red upholstery.

Damn, that doesn't sound good....

 

[jezzza]

I actually ordered the red with the red upholstery.

Very interested to hear what your dealer says. Communication from Nissan Australia on these little things would go a looong way in helping us feel like even slightly valued customers.