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Which is a different scenario. Dealers can get away with that kind of stuff today, but who knows in the future. With social media they need to be careful to not tarnish their reputation. When supply catches up, that dealer may not have any more customers. The dealership model today is antiquated and probably going to go away in the near future. Car buying is a horrible experience most times.
Would be nice if you could just buy cars directly from the manufacturer...
 

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As long as you have them contributing to politicians, you'll always have dealers. As a group, they are some of the most prolific contributors.
 

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I’m ok with waiting to get at least close to the specs I want, but $5k is tops on ADM, period.
Same here. Not dealing with wild ADM. Could always put that towards more mods on current builds.
 

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Same here. Not dealing with wild ADM. Could always put that towards more mods on current builds.
I believe 5k is the dealer delivery that is built into all Nissan Z deliveries in Australia.
That means that is the most they can charge, and it’s in the total cost of the car so you don’t feel like your being ripped off.
A dealer can take less if they so chose to close a deal, but can’t sell above it.
And it’s across the board so shopping around for dealers is pretty null and void
 

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@$40K per car, the dealer is prolly making at least $10K profit each car, when it's all said and done w/ all the departments. They don't need a markup around here in Houston.

And I have never heard of a dealer aim for charity
 

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Agreed. I bought my last Volvo (XC40) through the care by volvo program which was basically direct from Manufacturer. Dealer was involved for processing and was given a nominal fee for filling out paperwork.

Dealerships are an old and antiquated idea. They should be eliminated, or toned way down. No need for them and their added expenses moving forward.
 
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The future business model, ala Tesla, works, just keep the service centers, mobile or on location, easily accessible. One reason why I reserved with deposit my next truck, Rivian R1T, for next year delivery.

We all know the supply chain is the biggest snag nowadays, even with direct sales and orders.
 

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@$40K per car, the dealer is prolly making at least $10K profit each car, when it's all said and done w/ all the departments.
You'd be surprised at the profit amount for the car itself. Most probably, you'll see less than $3,500.

The main profit centers at a store are Service and Parts. Used cars is next, F&I is next, and New cars is last. New cars - in a normal time - are commodities. Dealers will undercut another's price by $100 and may even lose a little bit just to get a car off floorplan (they finance their new car inventory just as you).
 

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ADM would be a deal killer for me. Part of the big appeal of the Z is the bang for buck. If it moves up a price category, I'd just buy the car in that category. There's a reason the car's MSRP will be in the $40k range: that's what it's worth.
 

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@$40K per car, the dealer is prolly making at least $10K profit each car, when it's all said and done w/ all the departments. They don't need a markup around here in Houston.

And I have never heard of a dealer aim for charity
Have you been in the lots lately? - It's nuts here too.

Central Houston Nissan's 4k markup isn't looking so bad now.......only problem is the first couple batches are going to be luck of the draw.
 
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Have you been in the lots lately? - It's nuts here too.

Central Houston Nissan's 4k markup isn't looking so bad now.......only problem is the first couple batches are going to be luck of the draw.
4k is for the Z or other models? And how do they figure that ‘luck of the draw’? Of course curious too.
 
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