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Savagegeese pitted some BMW in-line sixes against each other: Spoiler: Supra was fastest around the track.

And as we sit here, Toyota is rolling out manual Supras to consumers while the MT Z is… recalled?! What is Nissan doing

My grandfather (brilliant engineer) has a '93 NSX that I was very lucky to have been able to drive as a teenager. Zipping around town in an NSX as a 16 - 18 year old was so much fun. He offered to give it to me a few times, but I had nowhere to store it and no money to maintain it. I have space...

Quick google search shows that the VR30 also has some reliability concerns, although I don't see anything immediately alarming. Some threads about overheating, which it looks like the Z has addressed... I'd also be concerned that Nissan hasn't addressed the fuel cutting out in corners when the...

SG did their best to level the playing field. I figured upgrading the tires/brakes/fluids would have closed the gap more (why didn't they adjust brakes/fluids on the Supra?). And what's up with the Z's fuel cutting out once the tank hits 50-75%? Would love to see these cars do a few consecutive...

Their video hit the nail on the head with one discussion: with BMW/Toyota’s R&D budget, consumers get an 80k car for 55k in the Supra. Not quite the same with Nissan updating a previously $35k platform and selling it for $50k If I were daily driving my Zupra, I’d certainly appreciate the...

Doesn't seem to be working at the moment Edit: just kidding, the build button on the top of the page took me to a list of nissan vehicles, none of which were the Z. Going back and scrolling down has the Z options where you can configure a build. Pretty cool that there's some interior...

3.0 Base MT is $53k and has comparable features as the performance Z.... 3.0 Premium gets you Full Leather Seats, wireless charging, and a heads up display (which the performance Z doesn't have)

Also agree with @rocksandblues. Been following the Supra and Z for the past year and picked up a 2021 Supra since the wait on the Z was taking so long (reports coming out today that they're suspending orders now too - what a mess). After reviews of the Z deflated the "Supra Killer" narrative...

Woof, they weren't kind to the Z

That's your channel?! Been watching your track vids recently - awesome car and driving. It's interesting to see how well the Supra does against other cars.

It doesn’t overheat because it goes into limp mode to prevent it, like I said. I’ll take isolated reports of oil consumption vs guaranteed limp mode. My MKV has 7k miles without any oil flags.

The Z has just as questionable of a future with the overheating issues of the VR30. And don't forget that Toyota ran its gamut of reliability testing on the B58 engine. It really will be interesting to see how these stack up in the long run from a reliability perspective (it's already clear how...

Someone who gets this upset over people defending the Supra maybe should avoid Z vs Supra comparison posts. The Z still looks great, but Nissan cut too many corners for the MSRP they're listing it for and all objective comparisons so far (including this post) have the Supra tagged as the better...

Not a false badge. Toyota co-developed the car. https://club4ag.com/chief-engineer-tetsuya-tada-reveals-the-a90-supra-through-a-viewpoint-of-joint-development-with-bmw/ I haven't seen anyone from BMW disagree with Toyota's chief engineer's interview.

Supra’s warranty is pretty substantial iirc (5 yr 60k miles for power train, which is more than the general BMW warranty).

When I finished undergrad in 2005 I wanted a 350Z so bad.... I just couldn't afford it. I went with a used (10k miles) 2003 Acura RSX Type S that I got for $18k. That was such a fun car but the Z would have been a blast too.

Other than an Acura RSX I had for a bit after college, I've only purchased Toyotas (Honda/Acura and Nissan always close seconds). I definitely considered BMWs because of the performance beasts they are, but wasn't sure about reliability and maintenance costs. When I read about the reliability...

Camissa notes some surprising issues (e.g., dead steering, boost bump loss of traction, engine power loss on braking, constantly going into "limp mode", top speed restricted due lack of downforce/loose rear - even moreso on the sport model, etc.). Have any reviews mentioned these things?

Toyota did its due diligence in evaluating the reliability of the B58 during the development of the Supra/Z4 platform, and subsequently there was a lot of Toyota development into the car that was separate from the Z4. Tetsuya Tada, Chief Engineer at Toyota, explained this in interviews. If...