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These prices are insane. I’m not even considering a Z at this point anymore. Not at $50K+

I’m out. A Z spec’d the way I want it is $10k more than a Mustang Spec’d the way I’d want it. I just don’t see the value in the Z at 51k.

I’m definitely out at 50k.

To me it needs to undercut those cars, not be even with them.

That’s fine with me I’m not buying for handling I just want something comfortable, good looking, manual, with good power. I’ll never take it to the track or anything like that mostly just commute in it.

The new Camaros are excellent performers but I just can’t get over the styling on the newest ones. The ‘16-18’s we’re attractive but the ‘19+ are terrible. Also they don’t offer an option package that’s what I’m looking for either. If they sold an LT1 with more creature comforts I’d buy that...

For me, it has be be cheaper than a similarly optioned Mustang GT. Especially now that we know the weight is up on the Z. No one seems to be comparing these two but it’s a better comparison than the Supra honestly. This car cannot seriously compete at 40k base price when you can get a GT for...